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Tag Heuer Caliber 1887 novedad para 2010

Alvaro

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Para celebrar el 150 aniversario de TAG Heuer, la forma ha creado este calibre de manufactura con rueda de pilares.

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PSM-AHCI

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Cita:
Hi, I'm J.C. Babin the CEO of TAG Heuer, and YES, the new Caliber 1887 is based on a SII (Seiko Instruments Inc.) TC78 platform developped and patented in 1997 (filing) and eversince produced in very limited quantities, apparently for Junghans and Seiko watches in Japan. The caliber we propose and announced last week in London is a major evolution of this platform even though I aknowledge that the overall construction may look similar at first glance. However, the TAG Heuer movement is much different in terms of components, size and eventually performances, not to mention it is manufactured (all its key components including plate, bridges, assortment, cannon pinion, eccentrics etc....) in Switzerland in TAG Heuer workshops of Cornol (Cortech - a company owned by TAG Heuer and already producing TAG Heuer and Zenith cases) and La Chaux-de-Fonds (where we have also the HQs and where we added 30.000 sq feet more last year for movements assembling and other manufacturig projects) as well as from "best in class" partners such as Nivarox.
- Dimensions: it's broader (29.3 mm vs 28 mm) and thinner (7.13 mm vs 7.27 mm)
- Therefore the main plate, bridges - especially the chronograph bridge - and oscillating mass have been significantly modified to allow this evolution
- Its assortment is a swiss asortment specifically developped by Nivarox for TAG Heuer, and allowing to improve further accuracy and shocks resistancy
- New assortment centring of the balance wheel also specifically developped by KIF, a leading swiss expert company in balance wheels centrings
- Change and development of a new swiss engineered cannon pinion to increase time-setting overtime reliability
- Redesign of the fixing of ball bearings of the mass to contribute reducing the thickness
- Adjustements to pass the famous "60 TAG Heuer torture tests" in terms of accuracy, reliability, thermical and physical shocks resistancy, chemical agressions etc....
We have today already 45 TAG Heuer people working full time on that project in Switzerland and work with 21 other suppliers for additional parts, most being swiss. Total investment is several tenth of mio USD.
I would therefore qualify that movement as really in-house and manufactured by TAG Heuer even though, yes, the original IP has been acquired from SII. Please note that the original SII Caliber has always been praised by watches experts.
I hope I answer your questions as well as our fellow Watchuseek lovers !!!
Good evening - JCB

http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?p=2490698
 

vegaban

Baneado
Cita:
Hi, I'm J.C. Babin the CEO of TAG Heuer, and YES, the new Caliber 1887 is based on a SII (Seiko Instruments Inc.) TC78 platform developped and patented in 1997 (filing) and eversince produced in very limited quantities, apparently for Junghans and Seiko watches in Japan. The caliber we propose and announced last week in London is a major evolution of this platform even though I aknowledge that the overall construction may look similar at first glance. However, the TAG Heuer movement is much different in terms of components, size and eventually performances, not to mention it is manufactured (all its key components including plate, bridges, assortment, cannon pinion, eccentrics etc....) in Switzerland in TAG Heuer workshops of Cornol (Cortech - a company owned by TAG Heuer and already producing TAG Heuer and Zenith cases) and La Chaux-de-Fonds (where we have also the HQs and where we added 30.000 sq feet more last year for movements assembling and other manufacturig projects) as well as from "best in class" partners such as Nivarox.
- Dimensions: it's broader (29.3 mm vs 28 mm) and thinner (7.13 mm vs 7.27 mm)
- Therefore the main plate, bridges - especially the chronograph bridge - and oscillating mass have been significantly modified to allow this evolution
- Its assortment is a swiss asortment specifically developped by Nivarox for TAG Heuer, and allowing to improve further accuracy and shocks resistancy
- New assortment centring of the balance wheel also specifically developped by KIF, a leading swiss expert company in balance wheels centrings
- Change and development of a new swiss engineered cannon pinion to increase time-setting overtime reliability
- Redesign of the fixing of ball bearings of the mass to contribute reducing the thickness
- Adjustements to pass the famous "60 TAG Heuer torture tests" in terms of accuracy, reliability, thermical and physical shocks resistancy, chemical agressions etc....
We have today already 45 TAG Heuer people working full time on that project in Switzerland and work with 21 other suppliers for additional parts, most being swiss. Total investment is several tenth of mio USD.
I would therefore qualify that movement as really in-house and manufactured by TAG Heuer even though, yes, the original IP has been acquired from SII. Please note that the original SII Caliber has always been praised by watches experts.
I hope I answer your questions as well as our fellow Watchuseek lovers !!!
Good evening - JCB

http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?p=2490698

Con dos cohoneh...:great:
 

Alvaro

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Pedazo de morro, lo que me faltaba con la marca, anda que no tienen cara dura...el caso es que en los foros guiris y en la información que he encontrado en Internet, en blogs de aficionados y demás, hablan del calibre como "manufactura"
 
mas de lo mismo en el mundillo de la relojeria, pero por lo menos lo esplica un operario de la firma , que ya es algo..... y lo hace para que no los pillen con los pantalones por los tobillos

manufactura ?????, ni los cafes que se hacen por la mañana
 

lumber

Baneado
es algo que no es nuevo para muchos de nosotros. De todas formas toma como base el calibre 7C78 de Seiko pero tiene muchísimas modificaciones con respecto a él, y si el 7C78 ya es bueno de por si podemos imaginar que este lo será aún más.

aún así lo de manufactura o no ya casi que me da igual...
 

ladrillo

New member
es algo que no es nuevo para muchos de nosotros. De todas formas toma como base el calibre 7C78 de Seiko pero tiene muchísimas modificaciones con respecto a él, y si el 7C78 ya es bueno de por si podemos imaginar que este lo será aún más.

aún así lo de manufactura o no ya casi que me da igual...

Totalmente de acuerdo. Qué es mas importante la exclusividad o la excelencia?
 

6138

Well-known member
es algo que no es nuevo para muchos de nosotros. De todas formas toma como base el calibre 7C78 de Seiko pero tiene muchísimas modificaciones con respecto a él, y si el 7C78 ya es bueno de por si podemos imaginar que este lo será aún más.

aún así lo de manufactura o no ya casi que me da igual...
yo no se si de verdad tiene muchísimas modificaciones..... pero a la vista de lo leido en wus..... si esto es lo que oficialmente nos cuenta tag de las modificaciones, y creyendose (y siendo generoso, visto lo visto ) la mitad de la mitad...parece que hay mas ruido que nueces .....

exagerando un poco como las diferencias del 7s 26 y el 7s36 .... diferencias solo para aparentar diferencias.....

cambios de grosor del calibre cambiando el rotor. etc .....por favor , vaya jeta....
 
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